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the record open til the 31st of december. how's that for a date, ms. norton? without objection, so ordered. we may have additional questions we'll submit to you. may i yield to ms. norton now? >> well, that's a fine date, mr. chairman. it will either be over the cliff or not by that time. [laughter] i very much appreciate this hearing. i want to say that i have been an officionado of public/private projects in my, in my own subcommittee on economic development where it's better known, better understood and extensively used. i have -- and that's why i'm very interested in its conceivable application to a railroad. if we did more public/private partnerships in construction and real estate in my other committee, we would have saved billions of dollars. now, i want to see whether or not that's the same if we're talking about railroads. i noticed in mr. offutt's testimony, i'm looking at page 9, that your examples where you recently advised on transactions tend to be examples like parking systems, concessions, parking concessions, airports and the like. have you ever advised on any prompt -- on
. >> ms. norton? >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. secretary, you've earned many happy birthdays for your long service to the united states in many capacities. >> thank you. >> first, i want to commend you and this administration. when i said let's get started, you got us started. you moved us off the dime. you've got 151 projects, they're all obligated. yes, you have some states divided, and, um, when they are divided, i think you're doing the right thing, take back the money. and look what you get, you get a bonanza of other jurisdictions. if florida and california are still debating whether or not they want to become second class states, be my guest. there will be many other states that move forward. and this is a country of jurisdictions. and some will come later -- all will come, and those who come early will be ahead. now, i indicated when we began that my concern is to produce -- intent on this project about a train to nowhere is unfortunately. but let me indicate one way that i think we could get over that. i think that hag -- has a lot to do with the fact that here again we are a
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